Serious About Learning Thai

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Haha, after countless questions from other as to how my learning thai can help me in the economic sense, I finally am making some money with this beautiful language . Hmm, rates not to bad too. Sure beats having to teach JC students some boring school subjects.

I have started teaching Conversational Thai for Beginners to interested and serious students who need to pick up the language fast for work or personal reasons. And on a one-to-one personal tutorship basis. As far as I know I am probably one of the few, if not only local teacher. Plus I seemed to be the only one who use the Computer as a teaching tool as well.

In fact from feedback, I may be doing a better job than the typical ethnic that teacher cos I understand all the problems the SG student will have to go thru, plus I have at my disposal all the dialects and Singlish to aid the student in pronouncing correctly. I must thank the Language School for taking that step of faith in me, as it is also the 1st time for them to use a local teacher.

After several more students have taken this Beginners' class, I will probably go on to conduct a more advanced class - "Practical Reading/Writing of Thai Language", with the objectives being to be able to email, sms and Instant Message in Thai scripts. Already lined up an Internet cafe to house the class, as the Internet forms part of the necessary teaching materials/tools for this advanced class. No Thai Language School in SG will be able to do what I want to do. And since this will be a group class, the rates will be a group rate - cheaper than 1-to-1 class rate.

Bros/Sis interested in learning proper Conversational Thai can pm me, and also if u need more details.

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I am considering holding a group class for samsters (or otherwise) to teach Conversational Thai for Beginners - the proper way. Although the class is target mostly at beginners, more experienced bros who wish to improve their pronunciation are welcome too, although I would prefer to hold a separate class to do that if there is enough interest.

The focus of the class is to teach the spoken Thai language to students that they may be able to speak as accurately as possible, so that their foundation in the language would be strong. A lot of course will be places on getting the tones correct as well as the length of the vowel. All the understanding and experience I had to overcome the difficulties of learning this beautiful lanague, I will share in the class. In the class, students will learn an extremely good method of transliteration (romanized thai) that will serve as a foundation for future efforts to learn to read/write the actual thai words, instead of being thrown away like most systems we see today.

If the student practices hard enough, after a few months, even ethnic thais should find it hard to differentiate u from a thai person unless the conversation gets too deep, when one runs out of vocabulary words

Students who complete the class can go on to the reading/writing class, where the focus will be to get you to be able to read/write the actual Thai Language to a point where reading and writing emails, sms and even live Internet chatting are the targets. Here, I will also teach and demonstrate all the tricks and skills I have mastered to allow you to harness the PC and the Internet to speed up your learning. A significant part of this class may be held in a less crowded Internet Cafe! (unless we can find a classroom with Internet access). Students will be writing to each other, and later to the Thais (in thailand) I will put u in touch with.

If you are interested in the Converstational Thai for Beginners class, please Email or PM with your email address (your privacy is assured) and I will let u know more details. I have 3 students already ONed. Only room for about 3 more so hurry! I dun want the class to be too big, if possible

[taurus75]

brudder free..maybe it will be clearer to those interested to know more about the price for the course??
thanx..Khon Khun mak krup...

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Originally Posted by taurus75

brudder free..maybe it will be clearer to those interested to know more about the price for the course??
thanx..Khon Khun mak krup...

For group rates, the charge is S$30 per head, maximum 8 per group for a 2 hour duration. All learning materials will be provided.

For more details on the whole package, please PM or email me.

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Originally Posted by free

For group rates, the charge is S$30 per head, maximum 8 per group for a 2 hour duration. All learning materials will be provided.

For more details on the whole package, please PM or email me.

Forgot to add, most people will take from 16-20 sessions for Conversational Thai for Beginners.

If want to move on to Practical Read/Writing Thai, it will be building on the lessons learnt in Conversational Thai for Beginners.

Originally Posted by free

Forgot to add, most people will take from 16-20 sessions for Conversational Thai for Beginners.

If want to move on to Practical Read/Writing Thai, it will be building on the lessons learnt in Conversational Thai for Beginners.

Watdee Khrap. Khun aw khruu mai khrap. Phom song phasa Thai dai la phuud Thai 7-8 pii leew.

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Originally Posted by guru899

Watdee Khrap. Khun aw khruu mai khrap. Phom song phasa Thai dai la phuud Thai 7-8 pii leew.

Er... Bro, I dun know your purpose of this particular post of yours but by saying "Khun aw khruu mai", your thai grammar is already wrong " -i,e,. the way you used " เอา ao (aw)" is incorrect and a thai speaker will not commit such mistakes.

Also, the transliteration method (romanized) thai you are using is outdated and it will actually be holding back the student as he progresses. Chances are that the student using your method will speak thai with inaccurate diction/pronunciation, even if he can get his sentence grammatically correct. As a result it is difficult for thais to understand him and this happens much more often if he is a stranger and as such will be too polite to say so.

And if the student wants to move on to reading and writing, the method you used will have to be thrown away and he will have to learn again from scratch, or worse spend a lot of time "UNLEARNING" cos he would have cultivated a lot of bad habit. On the other hand, the method I am teaching will actually allow the student to build on it. I myself learn to read/write enough to write letters, emails, sms and chat within 6 months from the day I started mission to read/write thai.

Sorry if my words seem offensive to you, but I am speaking hard facts that are backed by any Good and Well-known Thai Language Books authors.I would be more than happy and open to sharing with u and I am sure with the amount of time u have had speaking Thai, your vocabulary is probably far ahead of mine and therefore I can learn from u too. Take care na ja

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[Hakoshu]

Tat is good thread by khun free

Originally Posted by free

Er... Bro, I dun know your purpose of this particular post of yours but by saying "Khun aw khruu mai", your thai grammar is already wrong " -i,e,. the way you used " เอา ao (aw)" is incorrect and a thai speaker will not commit such mistakes.

Also, the transliteration method (romanized) thai you are using is outdated and it will actually be holding back the student as he progresses. Chances are that the student using your method will speak thai with inaccurate diction/pronunciation, even if he can get his sentence grammatically correct. As a result it is difficult for thais to understand him and this happens much more often if he is a stranger and as such will be too polite to say so.

And if the student wants to move on to reading and writing, the method you used will have to be thrown away and he will have to learn again from scratch, or worse spend a lot of time "UNLEARNING" cos he would have cultivated a lot of bad habit. On the other hand, the method I am teaching will actually allow the student to build on it. I myself learn to read/write enough to write letters, emails, sms and chat within 6 months from the day I started mission to read/write thai.

Sorry if my words seem offensive to you, but I am speaking hard facts that are backed by any Good and Well-known Thai Language Books authors.I would be more than happy and open to sharing with u and I am sure with the amount of time u have had speaking Thai, your vocabulary is probably far ahead of mine and therefore I can learn from u too. Take care na ja

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But, I know your purpose is to make money. So, maybe I broken your opportunity???

Want can be written as aw, ow! , just like teacher can be written as khruu, kroo (mid-tone)..The fomer is the actual photenic system which is closer from singapore english to thai...If you write as ao, some ppl might pronounce as different-tone. Thus, different meaning.

Also, thai language had NO GRAMMER! NO TENSES!

When a english speaking ppl like sinagporean want to learn Thai, it is best to use the former way. Otherwise, they had to learn the thai vowels & consonants which prononce differently, despite written same.

If you learn from dictonary, you must be aware of the dictonary or book origin. These are meant for which nationality, cause the written is writing for that in mind.

I dun learn to write as this had not much use and my written is not as good as you, same as english. BUT thai can understand my speaking which is clear and vice versa.

I think thais may had difficult to understand your speech. But, written they can understand.

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Anyway, I learn thais from my living experience & to bang gals only.

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Originally Posted by guru899

But, I know your purpose is to make money. So, maybe I broken your opportunity???

I am sorry to burst your bubble. Perhaps you may have not been very observant in your learning of the Thai Language. If u think u are exposing me, haha, u have only succeeded in showing that you have not made use of your 7 years well. It is really not the length of time that matters, but what one does during a particular length of time. A guy who has been working for 10 years could be just repeating his 1st year of working life's experience for the next 9 years

I do not deny that I am earning some pocket money. I have after all, put in my due effort and time and my results shows. I am also doing this partly cos I have been receiving a fair number of requests to teach the language to brothers. Of course u won't need to learn for u already have been speaking for > 7 years right? Well during my time, I had 4 months to go from zero to conversation and how I wish I had someone who understoods my problem then and can tailor the class to suit my needs. There were none that I could find to teach me what I want to know.

Originally Posted by guru899

Want can be written as aw, ow! , just like teacher can be written as khruu, kroo (mid-tone)..The fomer is the actual photenic system which is closer from singapore english to thai...If you write as ao, some ppl might pronounce as different-tone. Thus, different meaning.

Also, thai language had NO GRAMMER! NO TENSES!

By the way I am not even talking about the way the romanized thai is being spelled. I spelt it as "AO" cos it is consistent with what I teach but that is not my focus. I am specifically saying that the way you used "AO" (or AW if u like) is WRONG, period. U have made the common mistake of using it in that way cos u know what AO means but u do not know how it should be used within a Thai sentence. Wanna get more technical?

Thai language has no grammar? Haha, tell that to the Thai linguist specialist. It is just that their grammar is not seen/practised in the same way as we do in English. Sentence structure is different in Thai than in English and what u did was to translate English words (word for word) into Thai words and used them to construct an English Sentences using thai words. That is wrong.

Originally Posted by guru899

When a english speaking ppl like sinagporean want to learn Thai, it is best to use the former way. Otherwise, they had to learn the thai vowels & consonants which prononce differently, despite written same.

If you learn from dictionary, you must be aware of the dictonary or book origin. These are meant for which nationality, cause the written is writing for that in mind.

Sorry, this is the OLD School of Thought. Times have changed, teaching methods have improved, but u had not realised that. Today's modern Romanized Thai takes Vowel lengths and tones into consideration. Your way may be been the "best" many years ago, but it is OBSOLETE now. Anyway romanized thai by itself is useless in thailand. The reason why I chose a particular form of romanized thai is that it IS A STEPPING stone for me to learn the actual thai words. The method u used would have to be thrown away (or worst -unlearned) if one goes on to higher grounds.

I dun learn to write as this had not much use and my written is not as good as you, same as english. BUT thai can understand my speaking which is clear and vice versa.
I think thais may had difficult to understand your speech. But, written they can understand.

Not much use? That is not for you to say. U can only speak for yourself. Those who want to learn with me obviously are looking for something more and probably not just chat a few words with the thai pooyings they bonked.

Without learning or mimicking the vowels (including the lengths) and tones (not so much consonants) the way they are sounded in the Thai Language, one can never learn to speak thai properly or it will take years (and still get it wrong). Why learn thai in a half baked (even wrong) manner, when with just a little more effort (I think it is the same effort) one can get it right - to almost perfection? Why settle for mediocrity when the real thingy is within our grasp and easily too?

By the way, I teach thai in such a way that moving on to Actual Thai Words (we call it scripts) is a natural progression. When u can start to read the actual thai words, u will be surprised how much faster your spoken thai will improve, cos all the rules (tones, vowel lengths, and what not) are built into the thai words. The romanized thai I teach is but a way to get there quickly, but not hold us back when it is time to move on. With you method, u will be stuck forever unless u throw it away. The alternative is to go thru what a Thai kid goes thru in school

If what I wrote is offensive, I apologise. But I have to make the facts clear. No point going for the thai classes we see all over the shop using methods u just expounded. If they are any good, they will lot more people speaking good thai today. And read & write as well.

Bros can see for themselves if it is worth their while to attend my classes. I dun force them nor do I con them. I am already teaching students from government officers who had to deal with thai workers, to senior management staff who are going to be posted to thailand for a few years/

[suteerak1O99]

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Originally Posted by guru899

Anyway, I learn thais from my living experience & to bang gals only.

What has your reply got to do with what I wrote in thai? I said if I am really sorry if I had made u angry and do please forgive me.

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Originally Posted by guru899

When a english speaking ppl like sinagporean want to learn Thai, it is best to use the former way. Otherwise, they had to learn the thai vowels & consonants which prononce differently, despite written same.

If you learn from dictonary, you must be aware of the dictonary or book origin. These are meant for which nationality, cause the written is writing for that in mind.

Gosh, I can't believe I am still responding to this post, but u have made so many fundamental FACTUAL mistakes in this post that I just had to.

What u said above is actually the opposite from the truth. The obsoleted Romanized Thai method that u had presented is the one with the "multiple ways to pronounce the same word" problem, cos it does NOT take into account tones nor vowels lengths, not to mention other indications like silent sounds, etc. For the Thai words, there is only one way to pronounce the word (unless you dun know how to read it). Within the Thai words, are encapsulated:

1. all the tone marks (for the 5 tones - mid, low, falling, high & rising )
2. the class of the consonants (high, mid or low tones)
3. the length of the vowels (long or short vowels
4. other tone marks like the garan อ์ which is silent
5. vowels which modify their forms depending on their position in the word
6. All the tone rules

The method of romanized thai that I am teaching is able to handle all the above points, in that the romanized thai word would read with the correct sound.

There is only ONE way of pronouncing a Thai word and any modification is only because these mods are colloqial in nature or have been accepted over the years like dropping the "r" in ครับ "krap" to become "kap" and yet both are exactly the same word with 2 ways to speak it. But u will never hear the newsreader saying "kap"; always "krap".

As for dictionaries, the thai words stays the same in EVERY dictionary! But for those Thai-English dictionaries meant for foreigners again the many (& some obsoleted) methods of transliteration used certainly guarantee that the foreigner will possibly pronounce the word wrongly, whereas with the method I teach, there is only one way to pronounce the romanized thai word - EXACTLY the same way a thai person (and myself as well) would have read the thai word.

Next time, before u post something like this again, do think if you could be misleading a whole bunch of people who dun know better if nobady had spoken up.

I am sorry to make you so upset such that you had to defend urs ....... LOL.....Maybe, I am self-taught so I ignore those rules that you had mentioned. But, do you really understand thai songs, thai movie, thai news, ....

Since you are teaching your own UNIQUE way,.....go get it patent quick!........

I interested to see how good your spoken thai is, so tell me your technical........

As you claimed there is grammer, what is the thai word for teaching, taught, teached, ....dun use more than one word cause this is grammer.

I see that your new modern way of learning will make you a wonderful & rich man soon. I hope to see your face in the paper.

Nothing is OBSOLETE if you know how to use.

This is a bonking website, I think you should bring your business elsewhere.

You teach PM thai whom just spoke with Taksin!